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‘Queer Eye’ star Tan France can’t stand tech, TikTok, and mommy bloggers

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Tan France of ‘Queer Eye’ and ‘Next In Fashion’ talks about his tech habits, the French tuck, TikTok’s trendy crop-tuck, and why he can’t stand mommy bloggers.
Three photos of Tan France, recolored in pink and yellow.

Across the pond, in the quotidien hours of the mid-morning, Brits snack together. They call this phenomenon the “Elevenses” and, in the same way, Gretchen Weiners strived to make “fetch” a part of the American vernacular, Tan France is trying to make “Elevenses” happen here, too.

You know France from his work as a style savant on Queer Eye and competition show Next in Fashion. Now, in partnership with yogurt brand Noosa, he’s working to bring the term from his native Britain into vogue.

“Everyone does Elevenses,” he says over a Zoom call, looking habitually quaffed. “Nobody I know doesn’t do Elevenses. I’ve worked in an office here before, I know that around 10 or 11 people are snacking. It’s just that in America, there’s no word for it.”

We let France try to convince us of the fetch-ness of the “Elevenses,” but not before asking him about his tech habits and take on the latest TikTok fashion trend.

Mashable: Hi, Tan. I apologize for my voice, I’m just getting over a cold.

Tan France: Oh no! OK, then I’m going to be honest. I have the flu. We’re gonna get through this together! I moved three days ago, and I think it’s the exhaustion of how insanely stressful it’s been.

There’s a study that says the top three stressful things in life are divorce, moving…

And death.

You’re a father of two now. Parenting advice is very popular on TikTok, do you ever consult your For You Page for tips?

I’ve used TikTok, but I haven’t used it in quite some time. And I don’t really understand TikTok.

What don’t you understand about it?

Well, I just don’t know how to use it. I’m 40 now, and I’m very tech-averse. So I don’t I don’t know how to use it. I don’t know how to post on it, somebody else does that. I’m an Insta guy.

But no parenting advice on Instagram, either. You know, there’s a mommy blogger crowd.

I’m sorry, I can’t stand them. Because they make me feel crappy about my life thinking, “Why don’t I look gorgeous in my outfit and my kids look amazing?” I can’t do that, I can’t keep up with them. They make me feel crap about my life.

On my Instagram, I usually say how hard it is. I say, “I never look like this, it’s just for this shot.” Mommy bloggers just make me like they’re always living life like that.

You’re not on TikTok, but a device called the “crop tuck” is giving your French tuck method a run for its money.

Oh, I have seen this on Instagram. Yeah, it’s lovely. I think it’s absolutely lovely. I’m sure it’ll work great. It looks wonderful. However, I like the casual-ness of a French tuck.

How does one keep sweaters French-tucked into pants? Mine always pop out.

I don’t know. That’s a really good question because I don’t think it’s ever popped out for me. When you tuck the sweater, do you then pull the sweater out a bit?

Yes.

I don’t know what you’re doing, but I can’t help you.

You said you’re not really into tech at all. Why?

My phone, that’s all I can handle. We don’t have Alexa or whatever all those other things are. Literally no interest whatsoever. Anything techie, I’ve got to turn all that off. I cannot use tech, it drives me insane. Because it always crashes, it’s always complicated. You always have to reboot something, and I don’t know how to reboot something. Boots are the gorgeous heels I’ve got. Other than that, I want to talk about a boot.

You must have a laptop…

I do, but all I know how to do on it is Zoom. I have no idea how to use Excel, I don’t know how to copy and paste anything. That’s what I’ve got an assistant for.

How do you watch Queer Eye and Next in Fashion?

We have a smart TV where all I have to do is press the app and it’s there. I don’t set any of that up. My husband does it and then all I do is press a button. I haven’t even changed a lightbulb. He’s the techie guy, he does all the maintenance that needs doing. I’m like, “I think I know what I offer to our life. You do the other things.”

I’ve heard marriage is all about balance.

That’s it.

My grandfather was a Brit like you and would use one single cup all day for multiple rounds of tea.

That’s most Brits, that’s my family completely. Everyone has a cup. You don’t take that cup. I have my cup at my mum’s house that I’ve had since I was 13. It’s not like you’ve got a set of 10 cups and you just use whichever one. No, you use your cup.

He never mentioned this Elevenses thing to me.

I can’t imagine why somebody would mention Elevenses in England because we just know Elevenses. If you ask a Brit, “Do you know elevenses?” it’s like asking an American what the Super Bowl is. There was once an advert or, sorry, a commercial for this bar — it was a candy bar — but it was this “health” bar that they called Elevenses. They were just using the term that everyone knows.

Typically in England, your Elevenses is one of two things. It’s either a breakfast bar which, again, I just see as candy. It’s full of sugar, and it’s got as many calories.

It’s different than a biscuit?

You’re not having a biscuit for Elevenses, you’re having a biscuit for Tea. But I don’t mean tea. I mean, when we say, “What are you having for Tea” we mean that time between lunch and dinner. I know it’s insane. But at Tea time, we will have tea and biscuits that we dunk into tea.

But for Elevenses, it’s very typically a bar or yogurt because you’ve already had your cereal in the morning or your toast. And it’s too much to have a burger or whatever at 10:30, 11 and so you have something either shockingly sweet, which is this fake health bar, or something more nutritious, and it’s very typical in England to have yogurt.

There’s usually an entire section in a grocery store for your Elevenses yogurt. I’m not just saying it because we’re a part of this campaign, Noosa is my favorite yogurt. All of the flavors are lovely. but that lemon one is so insanely good. Coming in a real hot second is vanilla bean.

In the U.S., we usually think of yogurt as breakfast. What do we have to get past, culturally, to make yogurt our Elevenses snack?

The only hurdle is attaching a name. We’re finding that — and there’s a lot of research — that people are having yogurt in the mid-morning. So all this is to try and encourage Americans to use that name because there are many different names across the world: smak, brekky. But Elevenses is the only one that makes it very clear: It’s 11 o’clock, it’s time for that snack.

And the Brits won’t mind us borrowing, as we always do?

I mean, America has taken all of our great shows. So you may as well take our breakfast snack.

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‘The Marvels’ review: Ms. Marvel tries to rescue the MCU from itself

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Iman Vellani. Brie Larson, and Teyonah Parris join forces in the MCU’s latest adventure. Nia DaCosta directs. Movie review.
 Iman Vellani as Ms. Marvel/Kamala Khan, Brie Larson as Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers, and Teyonah Parris as Captain Monica Rambeau in Marvel Studios' THE MARVELS.

2023 has been a pretty miserable year for superhero movies, bringing us the underwhelming Shazam! Fury of the Gods, the ungodly eyesore that was Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, the atrocious The Flash, and the grim Guardians of the Galaxy: Volume 3. Only the neon-colored and family-friendly Blue Beetle relieved our superhero fatigue.

And now comes The Marvels, a movie that collides three different Marvel Cinematic Universe properties into one team-up adventure. Is it ripe with potential? Or will it be weighed down by the MCU’s growing demand that its audience keep up on hours and hours and hours of plot to be able to follow the thread? 

Co-written and directed by Candyman‘s Nia DaCosta, The Marvels is the shortest MCU movie, offering a space-trekking romp with action, comedy, charm, cameos, and a cat that spews tentacles. Yet this rollicking ride is plagued by this franchise’s determined grief streak. 

What’s The Marvels about? 

Zawe Ashton as Dar-Benn and Daniel Ings as Ty-Rone in Marvel Studios' THE MARVELS.


Credit: Marvel Studios

The 33rd film of the MCU is technically a sequel to 2019’s Captain Marvel, which was set in the ’90s. However, to get a full understanding of this film’s plotline, it helps to have also watched the TV shows WandaVision and Ms. Marvel. See, The Marvels’ intertwined superheroines from each of these — Carol “Captain Marvel” Danvers (a furrow-browed Brie Larson), Kamala “Ms. Marvel” Khan (the radiant Iman Vellani), and Captain Monica Rambeau (the riveting Teynorah Parris) — are “entangled” because of their light powers. This means they keep switching places accidentally because of a tyrannical baddie out in space named Dar-Benn (a woefully one-note Zawe Ashton).

Determined to save her dying planet, Dar-Benn uses an ancient bracelet to pull a Spaceballs. She’s stealing the atmosphere from one planet, then goes after the life-sustaining resources of others, and it’s up to The Marvels to stop her — if they can get themselves together, that is.

Along the way, a flimsy B-plot is shabbily constructed by checking in with Kamala’s family (the winsome Zenobia Shroff, Mohan Kapur, and Saagar Shaik) who is chilling with an exhausted Nick Fury (a mostly seated and definitely phoning it in Samuel L. Jackson) in a space station orbiting Earth. The Khan family is undoubtedly the best part of The Marvels, grounding the Cosmic Marvel mayhem with relatable roots and characters who are actually fun to be around — whereas Carol and Monica tend to sulk and brood. Ultimately, tying together such different leads creates a chaotic collision of tones, making for a very wonky watch. 

The Marvels is Star Trek, sort of. 

Teyonah Parris as Captain Monica Rambeau in Marvel Studios' THE MARVELS.


Credit: Marvel Studios

There are plenty of surface similarities between this Marvel offering and the massively popular, decades-sprawling sci-fi franchise, including space travel, hi-tech gizmos, curious alien critters, trips to strange planets, and heroes who are essentially interstellar military. But the biggest commonality between The Marvels and Star Trek is the way the tone of their respective adventures can change radically from one location to the next. 

Pick a Star Trek series. One episode might be a stern tale of planetary war, rife with trauma and a dramatic orchestral score. The next might be a wacky adventure involving a holodeck mishap or a peculiar alien infestation that leads everyone to act out a comatose child’s favorite fantasy book. (Watch Strange New Worlds, trust me.)

The Marvels feels very similar. One moment, Carol’s flashbacks are plunging audiences into a violent coup, which begins a catastrophic war. Then, this curious trio visits a candy-colored planet where everyone speaks in song. So, naturally, K-drama star Park Seo-joon plays their beautiful prince in a swoon-worthy duet/dance number that is among the film’s very best moments. 

The MCU needs to lighten up. 

Brie Larson as Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers and Iman Vellani as Ms. Marvel/Kamala Khan in Marvel Studios' THE MARVELS.


Credit: Laura Radford / Marvel Studios

With The Blip of Avengers: Infinity War, the MCU crossed the Rubicon on grim storytelling, piling on one story of grief after another and another and another and another. At this point, even the rascally rogue Loki has been sucked into a joyless plotline of saving ALL existence repeatedly. And yeah, The Marvels is following that plotline too. Because if this villain of the week’s plan works, she’ll yadda yadda yadda end of life as we know it. You know this song. It’s Marvel’s favorite. 

Here’s where Ms. Marvel was such a breath of fresh air. Centering on a Captain Marvel fangirl, Kamala brought an earnest excitement and enthusiasm — one much needed since the MCU’s Peter Parker went mournful. The TV show also worked in comic book-style graphics to reflect how Kamala imagined her world and her potential, and The Marvels does bring some of that in with her introduction. A joyous animated fantasy sequence plays out across notebook paper and post-it notes as she imagines her ideal meet-up with her idol. But you know what they say about meeting your heroes. 

Plagued by regret and grief, Carol is determined not only to save all existence but also to reconnect with her long-lost buddy Monica, who was a kid when Captain Marvel launched into space 30 years back. Amid all of this stress, Carol has also become a pretty boneheaded character, being so slow on the uptake of what her new nemesis is up to that audiences may well groan. If you liked Carol coming into her own in Captain Marvel or coming in as a heavy hitter in The Avengers movies, you’ll likely hate watching everyone else have to explain to her how to be a person, save the day, and generally quit being such a shut-down space hermit. It’s a lackluster plot splattered with entertaining action sequences — even if occasionally incoherent. 

Is this movie too short? 

man Vellani as Ms. Marvel/Kamala Khan in Marvel Studios' THE MARVELS.


Credit: Laura Radford / Marvel

I never thought I’d say this about a Marvel movie, but at one hour and 45 minutes, The Marvels could have used some more screen time. Not to build out the plot or characters; even if you don’t know these Marvels well, there are flashbacks and exposition dumps to fill in the gaps. And truly, the plot is cliched enough that you’ll be able to get the gist even as the dialogue haphazardly fires off Cosmic Marvel lingo (Quantum band! Universal weapon! Jump points!). But there’s a dogged pacing — especially in the first act — that doesn’t include the few crucial frames that might allow moments in a frenzied fight scene to land. Jokes don’t get time for their punchlines to hit; dramatic life-of-death stakes are established so swiftly we barely have time to gasp before the cut has moved on. 

Essentially, The Marvels begins with a panicked pacing that doesn’t so much reflect the characters onscreen battling for their lives, but the Disney execs desperate to battle off the audience’s superhero fatigue. Marvel and DCEU movies are on the decline with critics and box office. So, perhaps in the edit, producers pushed for a cut that would be short and relatively sweet, even if that meant undercutting the character moments that could matter most. 

Because Marvel is notoriously a machine, it feels unfair to blame DaCosta for the pacing and jarring tone issues of The Marvels. Her breakthrough film, 2018’s Little Woods was a slow-burn and rich character-focused drama. (Her 2021 Candyman, while wobbly, was likewise a confidently paced film.) Instead, it seems like indie directors who have come before DaCosta (Chloé Zhao with The Eternals, Taika Waititi with Thor: Love and Thunder), she has been conquered by the MCU demands of lore and action and surprise cameos and sequel promises (or threats?). 


‘The Marvels’ is at its best when it takes a breath to let its heroines have fun.

The Marvels is at its best when it takes a breath to let its heroines have fun. A training montage of transporting while playing double-dutch, cutaways to a gawking Monica and agog Kamala while Carol sings to a dazzling prince — these are when this movie comes alive. Poor Parris and Larson are saddled with sadsack plottery that trudges along, but Vellani is gifted a character arc that allows her Kamala to be a ray of light amid MCU darkness. This girl is an absolute star and should be launched into the stratosphere to bring her contagious smile and superpowered charisma far beyond the MCU. 

All in all, The Marvels is a rocky ride that feels crowded by MCU compromises, which undermines the star power of its cast and the talents of its director. But hey, it’s short and pretty fun, and has the funniest cat sequence cinema has likely seen in at least a decade.

The Marvels opens in theaters nationwide Nov. 10.